Aral Balkan @aral

A little demonstration of how I accidentally ended up building what’s essentially a live blogging engine with no code at all using DAT and Beaker Browser:

vimeo.com/275146689

The peer-to-peer Web is just around the corner and I’m hugely excited about it (and I see our role at Ind.ie as building a bridge between the centralised Web of today and the peer-to-peer Web that DAT is creating. That’s what the Indienet project – soon to have a new name – is about.)

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@aral I tried quickly Beaker Browser and looks indeed very cool, I didn't actually look into the code though, I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the security side?

@charlyblack @aral

BTW there seems to be an experiment with protocol WebExtension APIs in Firefox soon (see github.com/mozilla/libdweb#pro). You may aim to get this whole thing as a "usual" WebExtension into Firefox instead of forking FF as a whole new browser. It's also way easier to adopt & enjoy then!

@rugk @charlyblack Yep, following. With trepidation given the billions Mozilla has/gets from Google.

@aral @charlyblack That does hardly matter… They have contracts with other search providers, and they have shown in recent years that they can even live without the Google money (before FF 57, they had no contract with Google for some time.)

Also this has nothing to do with that API. :)

@rugk @charlyblack If Google stopped paying Mozilla on Thursday, Mozilla would file bankruptcy on Friday. Taking billions of dollars from a corporation does matter. It effects everything.

@aral @charlyblack That claim is just wrong and not backed by facts. So here some:

cnet.com/news/firefox-maker-mo

In 2014 they canceled the Google contract.
Look at the graph in the CNET article: Reveneu ~$300M.

Now let's have a look at the 2016 stats mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/a:

Mozilla’s consolidated reported revenue (Mozilla Foundation, Mozilla Corporation and all subsidiaries) for CY 2016 was $520M (US), as compared to $421M in 2015.

Only in 2017 or 18 they started the Google contract again.

@rugk @charlyblack They cancelled the Google contract in favour of getting all their money from rival surveillance capitalist Yahoo! Now they’re back to Google. Mozilla is ~100% funded by surveillance capitalism.

@aral @charlyblack Did you read the links? They mention all the providers they have contracts with. Previously it was mainly only Google, now they've also have Bing, Baidu or whatever is most popular in the region. They also have a DuckDuckGo contract though, BTW.

But as for search engines, which whom should they make contracts anyway, still? The issue is just that most search engines track their users there.
But they've integrated many alternative search engines over the recent years.

@aral I feel like I'm missing something here. P2P blog will go away when you are offline or shut down - unless you cache or host it somewhere, which is kinda what we already have in place. How is this different and/or an improvement?