begrudgingly implements tracking protection by default, after being shamed into it yet again by Safari, the DuckDuckGo browser, and Gnome Web (just the ones I know who implemented it first) and talks a good talk while still having Google as its default search engine and continuing to get hundreds of millions from Google/Alphabet, Inc. – the largest surveillance capitalist in the world. (Mozilla Corp is ~entirely funded by surveillance capitalism.)


@aral I think it's pretty idealistic to call them hypocrites — as if everyone doesn't have to make compromises to get by. Like "Hey, Josh hates capitalism and yet he charges money for his products! Hypocrite!" Anyway here's a decent thread on the internal decision process on tracking protection:


@joshsharp You're right, I mean, after all, Green Peace takes billions from Exxon Mobil and even is funded by Facebook. Oh, wait, we aren’t and they don’t because, unlike Mozilla, we aren’t hypocrites.

Being the opposite of what you say you are isn’t a compromise, it’s a con.

Mozilla is a surveillance capitalist.

Follow the money.

@aral @joshsharp Tor also, then, considering they take money from various state agencies including US ones?

@aral I think "being the opposite of what you say you are" sounds like a powerful statement but is empty because how do you define "opposite"? Yes, they take money from Google, who make money from surveillance, and that is bad. Agreed. If they do only good with it, is that good entirely negated by the source of the funds? I think you're saying yes, it is, but I disagree.

@joshsharp @aral it is not that indirect in this case. Mozilla actively promoting Google search is the problem that Aral is pointing out.

All those searches went through Google instead of something else because Firefox actively made Google search the default.

Consider a non-profit taking donations from a drug lord and using it for good. No ethical problem with that. But actively promoting drugs to its users can't be ethical.

@njoseph @aral sure, that is a fair point and more ethically murky 😕

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