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“The Google data archive you started on December 31, 2018 is ready. It contains your Android Device Configuration Service, Blogger, Bookmarks, Calendar, Chrome, Classic Sites, Classroom, Cloud Print, Contacts, Data Shared For Research, Drive, Fit, G Suite Marketplace, Google Help Communities, Google My Business, Google Pay, Google Photos, Google Play Books, Google Play Console, Google Play Games Services, Google Play Movies & TV, Google Play Store, Google Shopping, Google+ +1s on websites, …

… Google+ Circles, Google+ Communities, Google+ Stream, Groups, Handsfree, Hangouts, Hangouts on Air, Home App, Input Tools, Keep, Location History, Mail, Maps, Maps (your places), My Activity, My Maps, News, Posts on Google, Profile, Purchases & Reservations, Reminders, Saved, Search Contributions, Street View, Tasks, Textcube, Voice, and YouTube data.”

And that’s just Google. Not what Alphabet, Inc. has on me. No data they bought from brokers. No derived data.

And this was the final archive (~17GB), which I downloaded before deleting my account.

@aral

This isn’t meant to be an annoying question so I am sorry if it comes across that way.

Is it not possible for you to ‘delete’ most of the data google has on you and close your account?

@UnclearFuture
The point is not that @aral wants to be removed from Google.
The point is that they have so much data on everyone, even the guys that take care like aral have a lot of data. Now imagine guys that don't care.
This is more a point of making people aware of that.

@UnclearFuture Not an annoying question, don’t worry :) I wanted to have a backup of the data I’d “volunteered” (knowingly or otherwise) through the years (I started using Google, when it was just search, twenty years ago). It was a step towards closing the account. Which I just did :)

@aral

Ah, okay, thank you for your answer, it's truly appreciated. I'm glad you managed to close your account also :)

@aral
17GB?
WTF?
Is this Google drive or data from other sources?

@jlhertel Looks like ~14GB is YouTube (uploaded videos), ~3GB is mail, and about 240MB from drive. The most “interesting” stuff is in the data in the low MB/KB files. Purchases/reservations, for example, has a list of all my purchases up to ~2013 (when I was using Gmail) that had receipts sent to Gmail.

Afaik, that’s the only derived data I could find. Google has tons more, of course, and it would be interesting to see if all that gets deleted too.

@aral
You also have almost 7MB of location history. Depending of the format this data is shown, this is probably a lot of data too.
#fear #google

I've recently discovered all my purchases whose receipt had been sent to my Gmail account were displayed in the "Payment and Billing" section of my Google account, with no possibility of deleting them. Made me fume.

@hypolite @aral I suppose "derived data" was the next logical step, if you're scanning the mail anyways, why not scan the invoice information and collect it over time, with no way for the user to control what is scanned/collected. When I stumbled upon the purchases collection under my G account, I was stunned. You can use the free mail account, but ultimately it's a honeytrap for your data. And over the years we've attached our digital lives to it.

I jumped to posteo.de. My mail. My privacy.

I have subscribed to FastMail earlier this year, I'm still in the process of porting all my accounts' email address to it.

@spelk @hypolite @aral
switched to protonmail now a few month ago from hotmail and gmail.
No regrets. I love it

@rmb222 @hypolite @aral I have a protonmail account as my backup mail solution.

A few years ago, I dabbled with a hushmail account as my secondary private account, but at the time they were charging too much for me to go premium. They had a free account system that required you log in every week to keep the box open. Naturally with a backup account, I missed the check-in deadline.

Finding the balance of cost, utility, privacy and ethics led me to posteo.

@spelk @hypolite @aral
I very much endorse #Posteo. They collect only data strictly required for the service. They don't advertise since the users pay (1€/month). If you want, you can pay in cash (by mail), in which case they'll have zero personal data on you. And they offer nice mailvelope integration, end-to-end encryption for calendar data and such. E-mail doesn't get more privacy-oriented.
posteo.de

@spelk @hypolite @aral
The only thing I wish #posteo did is offer #XMPP (as gmail used to...) or #Matrix, so I could have IM to complement the e-mail service. And Mastodon, maybe ;)

@aral wow, so, guesstimating 1 byte per English word, this is the equivalent of a 17-billion-word dossier. at 500 words per page, that'd come out to 34 million pages of text. i know there are images and other binary blobs, but still, the scale is amazing.

@aral oh man, I can’t wait until I am able to do this. Slowly but surely. Well done! Happy Google-free-as-can-be new year!

Now, the real question.

Does #Google erase your #data after you delete without retaining?

@aral

@aral

Wow!

Seems like their 2FA has changed also. I.e. no QR code but an SMS or their app..

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