Even more tinfoil-hat sounding is the use of ultrasound for tracking, yet also real.

What I find at our community is that many people are really worried, but - just like with climate change, the environment - they are talking the talk, but not willing to walk the walk. Problems seem overwhelming, and this perception can lead to defeatism, and actively ignoring the problems ("I can't do anything. Let the big shots figure it out").

Yes, agree with article, and very much at play in tech world too. But now you see ppl putting blame at big corp and not changing themselves. Blame is shared by e.g. taking convenience of the supermarket. Eat less meat and you can afford to shop at eco-friendly local store.

In tech too ppl want to fight harms, but when it comes to action, they are busy, busy, busy .. using google, FB, etc. out of convenience. We must prepare an easy path for them to engage

@humanetech @rysiek @switchingsocial@mastodon.at We cannot blame people for using the tools of surveillance capitalism as long as 99.99999% of all investment goes into surveillance capitalism. That’s victim blaming. It’s the same as telling people that they can solve climate change by altering their consumption habits while just 100 companies are responsible for 71% of all carbon emissions. We need systemic regulation of abusers and investment in alternatives.

@aral @humanetech @rysiek @switchingsocial This is wrong re: people not taking action. People HAVE to starve them of power. We legitimately cannot calmly allow corporations to control or run platforms of social communications. We can only do so much with regulations (slavery is still legal in the US and dozens of "first world countries").




@jalcine @humanetech @rysiek @switchingsocial@mastodon.at I’m not saying people shouldn’t take action. Of course what every one of us does matters. But we’re not going to starve Big Anything (Food, Oil, Data, etc.) through consumption pattern changes among the privileged. There’s an effort on behalf of these corporate entities to limit “taking action” to altering your consumption habits as they know that is not a real threat. McDonald’s makes salads too.

@aral @humanetech @rysiek @switchingsocial I can go into depth about this right now but I won't (because of the amount of sources I'd have to pull in). I will revisit this.

@jalcine @humanetech @rysiek @switchingsocial@mastodon.at Thanks, look forward to reading your thoughts :)

@aral @rysiek @switchingsocial

Being all activists I think all of us are on the same page that things must change, and therefore action is needed. Coming back to my original point: to get more people to become activists the barrier to entry should be really low. Tiny improvements that lead one to the next, until they come to see the full spectrum of alternatives that is available and the toolset for true activism. A path to enlightenment

@aral @jalcine @humanetech @switchingsocial for me the important distinction is between taking action and being blamed for not solving the problem.

Should we take action on surveillance capitalism? Yes, absolutely. Should blame be put on users for using the tools they are coerced into using? No.

This is most starkly visible with "not good enough" approach. User A starts using the Fediverse, but is still on Facebook, and gets scolded for the latter instead of commended on the former.

@rysiek @aral @jalcine @humanetech @switchingsocial I agree and it's also important because scolding new arrivals is a great way to get them to leave. It alienates users and also works to establish power relationships based on experience and purity. This makes any platform worse for everyone. An atmosphere of welcome is more compelling for all kinds of users. Corporate platforms are the output of a faceless Borg. A human welcome is something they can't offer, but we can.
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