What does it say about the utter impotence of our mainstream democratic institutions that the demographic leading the charge to save our own habitat from destruction is one that doesn’t even have representation? Democracy isn’t a vote, it’s a struggle. It’s giving a damn.


Then again, is it surprising? Kids have nothing to lose. You haven’t managed to shackle them yet with your student loans, your rat races, your myths about professionalism; your manufactured fears and anxieties about managing to subsist in your inequitable societies.

Are you surprised that they are immune to your bullshit? That they are afraid of and anxious about what is truly worthy of fear and anxiety instead of what you need them to fear so you can perpetuate your corrupt and reeking power hierarchies?

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Children are our future not because one day they will grow up but precisely because they aren’t grown ups. Precisely because you haven’t yet had a chance to indoctrinate them with your bullshit and break their spirits. Our future depends on them not becoming “grown ups” like us.

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@aral IMO the future depends on them voting, and realising the power they could have. That's one of the biggest struggles. There's currently a correlation between age and likelihood to vote that skews the whole of politics in favour of older voters.


@rosjackson Indeed, within our current, corrupt, centralised, hierarchical political structures, the vote is hugely important. What percentage of your agency on issues filters through that is debatable and changeable depending on the specifics of the country/supranational entity we’re considering. But let’s also start planning for and building infrastructure to enable non-hierarchical politics to decentralise power and increase individual agency in the political process.

@aral one of my favourite teachers told me something that stuck to me: since they haven't internalized that much prejudice, kids are remarkably good at what we call critical thinking, except it's not critical for them, it's just thinking. It's unfortunate that they're usually pretty silly, so we often go like awww, that's so cute, instead of huh, that kid is kindda right...

@aral I am fascinated by the ideas behind Democratic Schools (the Sudbury model), which is so elegantly described in the book "Free to Learn" by psychology professor Peter Grey. I have feeling you would like it 🙂 freetolearnbook.com/

@aral If you want to get a taste of the concept before reading the book; here is a 15 minute TEDx-version you can check out next time you feel like procrastinating: hooktube.com/watch?v=E6wlTtQBl

Bonus lecture containing a slightly more academic angle on the topic: hooktube.com/watch?v=kKg6aCFXn

(Hooktube is, if you do not already know, a way to watch YT-movies without tracking).

@aral You think kids 'discovered' and 'proved' climate change all by themselves? Or have they been indoctrinated into it by the endless promotion of it by 'vested interests'?

@pperrin @aral the entire scientific community "settled" and "proved" climate change and kids were "indoctrinated" into it in the same way they were "indoctrinated" into gravity

@valrus @aral Would that be Newtons gravity or Einsteins or some other model? How do you think gravity propagates? Or is it just a word you have learned to repeat?

@pperrin Does my reasonable belief that gravity exists depend on having answers to those first two questions? Do you require this level of rigor of everyone who believes in the scientific consensus on any subject?

@valrus It is up to you what you believe - but it is wise to recognise the difference between knowing something, believing something or just accepting something. Even more so when you are commenting on what you think other people (kids) should believe.

@pperrin my dude, that is precisely and unambiguously what you were doing in your comment I originally responded to. Bye.

@valrus I asked a question... you made a statement... bye.

@pperrin @aral There are many things wrong with your reply, but the saddest part is that judging by your expected age climate change probably won't concern you personally, and yet you're still blabbing nonsense about kids concerned about their own future.

You got the long end of the environmental stick, and you have the gall to berate the ones who got the short end...

@hypolite every doomsday cult has had its acolytes. Funny that this one made predictions, all of which proved wrong, so new projections are set way, way in the future... and changed it's name over and over. What is it this week? Extreme weather?

@pperrin You don't matter anymore, please enjoy the rest of your life without bothering the ones who will have to suffer the consequences of your generations carelessness.

@hypolite 😂😂😂 what a friendly lot the mastodon people are - ha ha ha...😂😂😂-- your attitude is likely to encourage people to ensure you have no where to live 😂😂😂

@hypolite now go and play nicely with the other little children, we grown ups have things to do...

@pperrin Hey, as long as you're doing them away from us. The problem was that I had to read what you wrote in public.
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