Apple is a hypocrite on data privacy – The Atlantic

“There’s nothing requiring Apple to distribute apps from data-hungry companies such as Google and Facebook at all.”


Apple is a stopgap, nothing more, nothing less, right now.

We must fund and build small tech made by people for people, not by corporations for profit.

@aral Assuming people only use Apple's apps and not install Facebook, Messenger, Google Maps etc. on it as soon as they turn on their brand new iPhone.

People concerned about unethical tech: "We don't want to use devices made by #DataFarming corporations like goOgle that farm our data and violate our privacy, let's all use #iThings!"


Apple routinely:
*Bans GPL apps from iThings:
* Silently censors email:
*Violates privacy:
... and so, so much more:

I agree with @aral , we need a freed market of non-corporate hardware vendors.

@aral Apple really isn't much better than Google, in fact, I'd argue they're worse. I can install my own apps and remove Google's on #Android, but on #iOS, I'm limited to what Apple thinks I should be allowed to install.

@DashEquals @aral

Difference in my mind is that Apple is a hardware manufacturer while Google is a surveillance company.

Yes, Apple is more restrictive with what you can and can't do (which is an issue itself) but I think their different business models make Google almost intrinsically worse than Apple.

Aral 'splained itfairly well here

Apple's got issues for sure, but I'll take them before I encourage a necessarily evil business model like Google's.

@Chris @aral Sure, I prefer Apple's business model, but I think the better option is to support neither by buying products from a third party Android manufacturer and flashing your own ROM.

@DashEquals @aral

I agree in principle but I've generally found that Android with all the Googliness ripped out ends up being a pretty mediocre user experience. Just off the top of my head I know I'd lose NFC payments and my online banking, which are significant for me.

But I guess that pretty much embodies the problem that the ethical / open source world faces - making things that are as functional and competent as the big corporates products are (or at least, close enough) is really hard.

@Chris @aral Yeah, it's almost impossible to live truly free from all the corporations. I just like that at least, Android gives me the choice.

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