Join us live in half an hour for this month’s Small is Beautiful.

Topic: Independent and ethical video and streaming with Small Tech.

Special guests:

- @gabek (Owncast)
- @heydon (Webbed Briefs)

With a first glimpse at setting up and streaming to an Owncast server in under a minute using something we’re working on…

(Grab your webcam & headphones if you want to not just watch but join us in the studio.)

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@aral @gabek @heydon how do you recommend consuming the small web video and webbed briefs rss feed? I'd like to have a client that can track it.

@sexybiggetje @gabek @heydon I’m a bit disorganised with all that but @laura uses Feedbin.

@aral @gabek @heydon Btw, if anyone wants to view the stream without running any JS,


seems to work beautifully (thanks to youtube-dl support in mpv, I assume).

Very cool what you're doing with site js and owncast.
Thank you! Can't wait to try it.

Yes, very nice, inspiring conversation.

I hope that those applications will run on a #sharedhosting and not require a #virtualprivateserver

Unfortunately, #lamp stack is still one of the most affordable hosting environment.

#nextcloud democratises personal cloud because it supports simple environments.

Dropping out for evening sports :-)

@nurinoas @jpaul Thanks :) It’s built around the assumption of the VPS as the smallest unit you can actually own/control and migrate. This has even greater implications when we get into end-to-end encryption, etc. In the future, though, I would love to see the cost subsidised from the commons. Baby steps :)

doom and gloom 

@aral @gabek @heydon Re: economies and scale vs small web: What’s your take on infrastructure provider leveraging economies of scale to exert undue influence on users? If webapp are single tenant, like in the small web, webapp providers can’t restrict user like in your gmail example. But what about the VPS provider? Infrastructure usually has great economies of scale, so users are likely to congregate around just a few providers (like Hetzer and OVH) or pay a lot more monthly for hosting.

The VPS provider stopping me from running my single-tenant app would be comparable in effect to gmail stopping me from sending an email, and it’s technically quite feasible to do (e.g., by analysing the memory image of the VPS instance from the hypervisor to find signatures of the single-tenant app). Doing the same by a network provider is similarly feasible (e.g., by scanning stuff on port 443 and blackhole-routing the host if an undesired webapp is found).

General-purpose computing is being increasingly curtailed on the client side (app store-only phones, DRM blocklisting video outputs, locked graphics card drivers that don’t let you run scientific computing jobs with full speed on otherwise capable gaming cards). If general-purpose computing on the server side begins to threaten corporate profits, wouldn’t it be curtailed similarly?

The respite seems to be that VPS providers aren’t in the same business as surveillance capitalists, so they have no reason to collude – except for AWS, GCP, Azure…

doom and gloom 

@kristof @gabek @heydon Quick reply (sorry, a bit beat), the idea is to use commodity services to circumvent lock in. So the goal is to have multiple providers for each required aspect of the service and have an abstraction layer on top.

Also, could take the form of hardware devices you plug into your router at home.

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