Where should I start?
Oh... right... here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1487081#c16
Even other "features" like meta refresh, that could be used to hide an attack.
Attack that was actually exploited in the wide from Russian Government few months later.
@emanuele was looking for "something on #Firefox that is tracking on you with no choice" and in fact you do not even have a way to disable #JS and re-enable it with one click on a per #Web site base (like you have even on #GoogleChrome ! ! !).
Also Emanuele, you should consider that if people around you and people like you are tracked and profiled by #Google because of default firefox's settings (like default search engine), the end result is that you can still be manipulated and influenced through them.
That's why defaults should be #privacy friendly by default.
And you can disable JS in Firefox in the devtools e.g.:
Google Chrome is NOT a privacy/security friendly browser.
In no way.
Yet, I'm glad to inform you that if you look in your settings, you will find in
> Privacy and security
> Site Settings
Without Developer Tools! 😉
The answer is simple: they pretend to be privacy-friendly just to fool most people with their #Google-friendly defaults.
Indeed most people won't customize their browser (or at most will install sub-optimal extensions like NoScript).
In practice, #Mozilla became the geek-friendly PR-team of Google, Facebook and friends.
That's an individual solution trying to fix a systemic issue.
It's not going to work in the current environment.
It's like wearing a surgical mask in a crowd metro where everybody does not wear one: good luck! 🤣
That's why @aral mocks them.
As for me, when I wrote that bug report I thought that they were in good faith.
They were not.
You can but will you ? there is alternative proposed or easy way to configure an alternative.
And it's not even written that it is google behind this service.
If you don't look for it, you can easily believe that is just a function of Firefox or a service of Mozilla.
And there is also the geolocalisation service : if you don' disable it, geolocalisation is made by google services with your IP (if no other sources like GPS on a phone/tablet).
Try librewolf. Its just like firefox, but without all the bad stuff (and a great community too) - https://fosstodon.org/@futureisfoss/106168706827904386
Or live with every major website (and Mastodon's web UI, etc) being broken.
I'd probably recommend something some WebKit (Apple, with others)-based browser: GNOME Web, Midori, etc.
@aral As far as browsers go, which one do you prefer, then? (if not Firefox) - I was using Surf for a bit, but it had a lot of glitches.
The right one is "why you must rely on plug-ins to reduce #surveillance in the first place?"
I mean, it's fine: #Mozilla can do whatever they want with the software they code.
@aral Kusura bakmayın ingilizcem pek iyi değil. Mozilla şirketi gogıla bizi izlemeye izin verdiği için para mı alıyor.
@melcebi Google kendilerini varsayılan arama motoru yaptıkları için onlara yılda yaklaşık yarım milyar dolar veriyor, evet.
@melcebi Ne yazık ki alanımızla ilgili kelime hazinem pek yeterli değil. Normalde bu konular hakkında hep İngilizce yazıp konuşuyorum :)
@aral Does this also apply to waterfox and firefox esr
Bu waterfox ve firefox esr için de geçerli mi?
@melcebi People seem to be recommending Librefox, which reportedly sets private defaults.
Ben bir ara denemiştim ama hatırlamıyorum. Yine deniyeceğim.
@aral Öntanımlı arama motorunu değiştirdiğimizde sorun kalkıyor mu?
Örneğin ben waterfoxda ecosia kullanıyorum
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