@sotolf@fosstodon.org Yeah, had a quick look then blocked it :)

@aral @sotolf

"censorship hurts everyone, even if it gives you warm fuzzies that your enemies are being censored. it also keeps you in the dark about how wide their reach is, what they're saying, or what they're planning."

@otso @sotolf@fosstodon.org I don’t think you understand what censorship is. Censorship is me preventing you from speaking. It’s not me not listening to you. Just as I should not be able to stop you from speaking, you don’t have the right to compel me to listen to your bullshit. Fart all you want. But not in my house.

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@aral @aral @sotolf @otso Aral is spot-on, assuming Aral just blocked it for his acct, or Aral is the only user on the instance that blocked whatever source (if instance-wide block).

@otso @sotolf @aral (pet peeve sidebar) One partitularly nasty characteristic of #Mastodon is that when a node like mastodon.social censors an account like @altlink, all mastodon.social users who visit the altlink profile see “account has been blocked/suspended”, as if to imply that mamot.fr took an action against the acct when in fact it was mastodon.social.

@aral @otso @sotolf

Freedom of speech means freedom from interference, suppression or punitive action by the government — and nothing else. It does not mean the right to demand the financial support or the material means to express your views at the expense of other men who may not wish to support you. Freedom of speech includes the freedom not to agree, not to listen and not to support one’s own antagonists. A “right” does not include the material implementation of that right by other men; it includes only the freedom to earn that implementation by one’s own effort. Private citizens cannot use physical force or coercion; they cannot censor or suppress anyone’s views or publications. Only the government can do so. And censorship is a concept that pertains only to governmental action.

The Ayn Rand Column, 106

This is especially ironic when it’s alt-right whining about “not being heard” 😂

@otso @sotolf @aral

Fundamental issue with this argument is:

Aral (or any other fediverse member) != Big Tech

About Big Tech - agreed. Because they are effectively taking over the role of the government here, and in much more invasive way - while government is driven by laws, Big Tech is not driven by anything else than profit.

Which ultimately leads to a situation where Facebook will be maximizing divisive content because it drives engagement, and they will also engage in censorship to satisfy legal and political requirements, and they will do so in the way most cost effective for them, so sloppy and non-transparent.

@otso @sotolf @aral

So a decision to block someone taken by an _invididual_ isn't censorship - it's an individual decision to execute one's right not to listen to another individual you don't like engaging with.
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