Just discovered @penpot thanks to @aral ...

Looks interesting but I hear you must have a #google account ?


@hyde @penpot Nope, you can sign up with your email address but, sadly, login with surveillance capitalist Google is also an option.


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@aral @penpot
And, when installed locally do you need to login too ?

@hyde @aral Hi! The email (of any kind) will be asked only in order to enjoy Penpot on the cloud. Private instances just require basic Docker knowledge. You can run your own Penpot server following these instructions:

so the local version doesnt communicate in any way with any cloud if I understand well 😉

Thanks for the work done ! 🙌


@penpot @hyde @aral is there any chance that #penpot will be available for #yunohost at some point? It's simpler yet than docker;) yunohost.org/en/packaging_apps

@lps @penpot @hyde @aral I'd say yes to that question. Any medium that enables custom private Penpot instances easily is something we look forward to. Having said that, I'd suggest that we first need to exit beta stage before we devote resources to being at various different sysadmin friendly deployment services or technologies. Not because Beta means "unstable" at all for us, it doesn't, it's a matter of feature-completeness, but because it will probably put a lot of people off at first sight.

That's fantastic to hear, and yes that makes a lot of sense.
@penpot @hyde @aral

@penpot @hyde @aral For what it's worth, I ran a previous version of Penpot in a rootless Podman instance (in my user account) and it seemed to work fine for everything I did.

I should probably try this again, especially since there's import/export now.

(I generally use the hosted version, and it's wonderful. The local version is exactly the same UI as you'd get once you're logged in, of course.)

@penpot @hyde @aral And it'd be really cool to have a Flatpak with the server and a web browser baked in.

(It could be WebKit, which is what we're doing with Cockpit at the moment or even a tweaked version of Electron. Once we have it figured out for Cockpit Remote / Cockpit Client (still need to settle on a name for a desktop login experience to remote servers over SSH), it might help serve as some inspiration.)

So a fully self-contained Penpot app with a server and UI, in other words.

Hi @garrett ! Yes, this idea of a standalone client-server app that you can "install" locally is something we'd thought about at @penpot It's trickier than it sounds, not only in terms of tech challenge (we're familiar with the Electron approach), but mainly in terms of use cases it serves. You see, some people ask for an "offline" option for Penpot. By "offline" some people mean "be able to temporarily work with no internet connection and let my browser sync back with my chosen penpot server"..

.. and other people mean "standalone app like classical rpm/deb or exe installers" so I can use Penpot truly locally, as I use other desktop-style apps that don't need an external server. The fact that is client-server is transparent to the user". This latter approach is very interesting for single-user cases. Right now, at least for the core team at Penpot we are giving priority to processes and features meant to better address real-time collaboration and teamwork.

in the meantime, it'd be great to be able to easily deploy the server capability so trivially (yeah, flatpak or other means) so it's the closest to a native install. Similar to the classic CUPS web interface or PHPMyAdmin, where after installing, you simply point your browser to localhost:1234 and get the "local experience".

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