The difference between a closed, algorithmically-curated silo like Twitter and the fediverse.
Twitter: ~43K “followers”, 8 boosts, 58 likes
Fediverse: ~8.43K followers, 57 boosts, 106 likes
Your thousands of “followers” on Twitter mean nothing because the algorithm (i.e., Twitter, Inc.) decides who gets to hear you.
Indeed, @aral, also the fediverse is less saturated so people are generally more interactive, perhaps due to the bystander effect?
@aral Or it could be because on the fediverse there are more people who are critical of big tech companies than on twitter. Aka sampling bias.
@aral Are you assuming that all your followers are the same? That none of them has a different personality? A different opinion?
@attilakinali Not at all. But I am implying that following me is a sampling bias that’s stronger and more relevant than that of the generic sampling bias difference between Twitter and the fediverse’s general audience.
@aral Look man. You write something that elicits a response from a specific type of people. You look at the reaction you get on different platforms from that one single post? Sample of one statistics? Not accounting for any biases at all? Really?
That's the kind of pseudo scientific behavior I detest. It's the kind of thing that deceives people. Or rather, it's how people deceive themselves. You think you understood something. But what you really did was feed a GIGO system. And lied to yourself.
@attilakinali @aral I think it's more complicated. For example, my RMS-style Facebook/Meta meme got a lot of boosts/stars at a scale disproportionate to my account age and follower count, mostly due to having second-degree connection with a power user. So it will also depend on the influence of each follower on the respective platform. Note that this does not rule out algorithm manipulation, but too many variables makes determining the exact cause difficult.
@aral I agree, but I do wonder how much of this is because of the differences in audience. I would expect people on the fediverse are more likely to agree with the message.
@mike You realise that you’d have to be a masochist to follow me on Twitter or anywhere else if you didn’t agree with me, right?
@aral @mike Theories:
I follow people I don't agree with, mostly because I don't agree with everyone about something. Maybe I love most of what you do but just put up with your "big tech" opinions. Twitter would know that and filter those out.
I limit how many people I follow on the Fedi so I don't have an overwhelming amount to read. If I were on Twitter, I could follow more people because the algorithm sorts for me. So I'm more likely to interact on the Fedi.
So with all sincerity then, why are you still using Twitter? Don't you think that your presence there somehow validates the platform?
I don't mean that as some random bitchy (twitter style) comeback. Really. isn't it time to "vote with our feet"?
Or if not now, when?
@keith I’m forwarding from here. I still have people there that see my tweets who are not here (members of European Parliament, etc.) When I feel it’s no longer useful, I’ll close it down. Does that make sense?
That is to say.. I do not support in anyway the idea that mastodon is a twitter "replacement".
@aral the Fediverse is also great because you can create dedicated communities while retaining the ability to connect with others on the outside of that community.
It's the modern equivalent of old BBS systems with Fidonet.
@aral plus probably more meaningful comments than just proper bullshit. also what's already known is the thing about hate speech. the problem is that twitter puts hate speech comments at the very top, because they generate more ad revenue for twitter. this can be clearly seen when using non-algorithmic twitter frontends like nitter.
@aral Well, there is also a bias with the content of the message and the audience of each network/platform.
@aral Same text, but not same post obviously, since those are 2 different accounts on 2 different portals)
@poputchik Wanna buy me a new phone? (Kidding, please don’t. No, I’m not going to throw away my phone overnight but I am looking for alternatives.)
This is my personal Mastodon.