There's some irony to an emacs user explaining how emacs should be easier to use by comparing it to... Atom. You know, that editor that github used to build that was so thoroughly eclipsed by Visual Studio Code (which is the same basic idea) that I'm not even sure github remembers they technically still make it.

Apparently Github have discovered they technically still make Atom and decided to stop:

@faho lol actually i use atom because im a total n00b and it was introduced to us at a high school hackathon. i want to move off of it but most of the articles about better editors are really technically in depth and i don't have that sort of expertise to know what i'd want out of them. i dont want to keep using atom tho.

@pixouls @faho VS Code is basically Atom with extra work done to make it not feel slow. There’s a lot of add-ons for it, but you can ignore them and just use it as a basic editor if you want. If you’re comfortable with Atom, it should feel pretty familiar.

@jalefkowit while the writing as on the wall for years now, this announcement made me resume my exploration into making vim a viable ide. It's hard but it'll probably still be around in 20 years @pixouls @faho

@geist @pixouls @faho Oh yeah, you can totally do that. It's just not what I would recommend to (1) someone coming from Atom (2) who doesn't want to get hip-deep into their text editor

@geist @pixouls @faho Vim at least has built-in package management now, which should make loading it up with plugins a lot less of a hassle than it used to be


@jalefkowit @geist @pixouls @faho I’m hugely enjoying Helix Editor ( It took a few weeks (don’t switch editors and Linux distributions at the same time; especially to an immutable OS) but I’m more productive now than I’ve ever been. It’s changed how I think while coding. It’s like moving from chaos to stillness when editing code. And thinking in code, not in character positions.

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@aral @jalefkowit @geist @pixouls @faho I think Lapce is not there yet, but looks promising, I would like to suggest Lite-xl -

@aral @jalefkowit @geist @pixouls @faho

that looks painful (helix) ... guess I'm an old dog at this point ... sticking with vim and i've become comfortable with VSC.

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