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Folks: Why don’t you use Debian.

Also folks: Why not xfce?

Me: Trying Debian out for the first time in a VM with xfce… *enters password as instructed*… *presses tab*… Oh! Oh…

(There are few absolutes in design but I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that this is the absolute worst way you can design a simple sign-in form.)

Aral Balkan

The VM is deleted now and it just reminded me why I avoided Linux for so long. Thank goodness for GNOME and thank goodness for distributions like Fedora (especially Silverblue… very excited about both the present and the potential there).

@aral Some people: Don't use Ubuntu/Fedora/Suse. Cool people use arch, or Debian stable, or Slackware.

Same people: I have been looking all day for a way to make libfoo version 1.3.37 work with libbaz version 4.2.0. Guess I have to recompile the kernel now...

@wakame

@aral

When I tried MXLinux and Pardus I see I couldn't use distros except Arch. Arch's wiki make most things easy.

@aral I use Debian for all my servers, Mac desktop (sorry, boring)

@aral ahm, I have like 3 things for ya there:

1. What? You avoided Linux and you thank goodness for Fedora, that sounds... like a conflict. Can you please clarify what you meant?

2. This is xdm login screen or gdm or what?

Gnome interface guidelines are usually quite good, but yeah, some small things like that suck. To me the benefits far outweigh a few small nuisances.

3. Some things I LOVE on Gnome, and now after decades of Linux desktops (and sometimes Windows at work) I've just started using a mac (for work as well). It's nice, in many cases awesome, but it feels also quite rigid and it just doesn't work for me. But it's only been 3 weeks, and I'm heavily biased, so I'll give it time.

@aral

Ugh.

That post makes me sad.

I'm all for "use what works for you" but ...

It's sort of the same thing as if someone were saying how great Google, Facebook and Amazon were, for all the good that they've done, and you read the post, from someone who does work in a field that you appreciate (both the work and the field.)

Especially the part where Gnome accessability comes in... which... well, when they actually _have_ some we can talk about it.

(To be fair, a fellow from the Gnome _community_ posted some things about this, and I explained my frustration, and he addressed it in several themes. Not all, and he's not a dev, just a _helpful_ community member. Sadly, there aren't enough of those people in computing, and there are too many "my way is the only way" people. Which is how we get crap like the horror that is the world of computing in this century...)