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Edit: So if you’re on Fosstodon, know that Fosstodon has silenced my account.

You should be able to follow me if you want to see my posts but won’t otherwise see them if they’re boosted into your timelines, etc.

Or maybe consider switching to a FOSS server that doesn‘t silence FOSS developers.

(Please boost if you haven’t been silenced by Fosstodon also so folks there might see. Thanks.)

Note: edited to make it clear that I was silenced not suspended.

Apparently that doesn’t make people unfollow you but it means that your posts do not show up in people’s timelines if they’re boosted there, etc.

So, basically, folks on Fosstodon are not made to unfollow me but I’m censored there.

@edendestroyer @aral @fosstodon Probably not. YMMV.

I thought that "Nuance for the oppressor is the hallmark of the privileged" was pretty dramatic, and I agree strongly.

I thought the idea that programs should say 'user' not 'account' was dramatic, and I thought it was very silly. (The two words do not mean the same thing.)

"Contentious" is the better word, I think, and you should not take it to mean I always disagree – or that it's necessarily a reason to mute someone.

@fishidwardrobe @aral @fosstodon do things have to always be broken down into empirical points if one is to make an abstract moral statement for the sake of making them?

i understand that abstract statements are not everyone's cup of tea, they sometimes arent for me either. But "dramatic" implies dissociated ingenuity for a mastodon post, that rubs me off the wrong way if that's not the concern.

contention is a natural basis of any discourse that has a stake, but to label someone as contentious is to also imply contrarianism. I find aral to be the only non-contrarian tech person who has some "influence" over the fedi.

@edendestroyer @aral @fosstodon "dramatic" does not imply "disassociated ingenuity" to me. It implies drama, theatre. If I quote hamlet, that's dramatic. Making a post in dramatic terms is just a way of framing it. Sometimes to provoke emotion (nothing wrong with that).

Sometimes not: "got to go, my house is on fire" is pretty damn dramatic, but hardly the fault of the poster, assuming they are telling the truth.

Unpleasant people do sometimes use "being dramatic" in a pejorative sense.

@fishidwardrobe @aral @fosstodon i suppose then the contention here is aral's art of expression? not the core intention per se?

@edendestroyer @aral @fosstodon My point was not really to criticise. Aral has the habit of framing things dramatically (at least as I perceive it). It's not up to me to say why. Perhaps it's just a habit, or a way of generating debate, or a function of his strong feelings on a given subject.

But framing things this way can generate strong opinions and emotions. Which means he's more likely to get censured. Some of the people doing this will have good reasons. Some … won't.

@fishidwardrobe @aral @fosstodon i guess i understand

@aral @edendestroyer @fosstodon My apologies, I didn't mean to misrepresent your position. I still think it's wrong, but other opinions are possible!

@maegul Your guess is as good as mine.

@edendestroyer No idea. Nothing was ever communicated to me.

@aral sigh

@73ms Hmm, interesting. I was going by this: https://mastodon.ar.al/@JoshStrobl@fosstodon.org/110688921326838056

@aral @73ms Indeed, I still get Aral's toots fine.

But still, really want to know what happened here with the silencing. @kev ?

@ttiurani Yep, looks like I was unsilenced.

@73ms @kev

@dick_turpin No idea. I was never told anything.

@aral I bet you made someone cry.

@dick_turpin Hopefully only if they deserved it.

@jan No idea. I was apparently silenced and now I’m apparently not…

@evapavlikova Nope.

@aral

@mdhughes @aral hey now. I’ve never GNU-d you. :)