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snarfed.org and brid.gy for bridging fediverse folks to Bluesky against their will (and in likely contravention of GDPR in the EU) with typical Silicon Valley techbro sense of entitlement:

“[O]pt in results in far fewer users, and users are critical for a bridge to be useful.”¹

Relevant GitHub issue: github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/

¹ snarfed.org/2023-11-27_re-intr

HT @homegrown

GitHubOpt-out is a terrible default and should be reconsidered · Issue #835 · snarfed/bridgy-fedBy Mitsunee

@aral @homegrown

I'm often condused by such ethics. Aren't fediverse posts publicly accessible on the web by default, without any app or authentication, unless set as private?

"When signing up to a service inside the fediverse I agree for my data to be shared inside the network. No permission was ever granted to use my data outside of the network, such as with Bluesky."
- that does not sound truthful at all.

Aral Balkan

@justinas You’re confused by the ethics of consent? Yes, my posts are publicly accessible. That doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want.

Here’s a link to The Guardian—all their posts are publicly accessible:

theguardian.com/europe

Now please create your own site, copy the posts there, and let me know when you receive your cease and desist notice.

Or are you saying there should be one rule for corporations and another for human beings where the former are protected and the latter are not?

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@aral
But do you restrict this access to corporations, who can scrape it anyways, or to users, who will have more problems finding it?
My main problem with fediverse is the powerlessness of users, untill they become admins. Users are rarely allowed to have a say whom they can communicate with or where their content can be used. They are always at mercy of allmighty righteous admins. I won't be surprised when corporate extractionists will lure decentralisation fans simply by being more open.

@justinas If someone is being abused by a powerful entity, it doesn’t make that abuse ethical. It doesn’t also give you the right to abuse that person while pointing at the more powerful entity.

You’re right that the architecture of the fediverse is not egalitarian and that hierarchies and power structures exist. That’s been my criticism from the start and that’s why I’m working on the Small Web (where every person is equal). The fediverse is not perfect but it’s a useful bridge.

@aral @justinas

In theory, this is why corporate personhood exists.

Rights belong to persons.

You can hire a lawyer and send your own C&D. Not very helpful, but in theory possible.

Brid.gy seems like a crap version of what we really need, which is a way to thread together all of our communications without being dependent on any public or private proprietary entity.

Like all of us hosting our own services or something.
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