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“I never thought leopards would eat MY face,” sobs person who worked at the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Corporation.
@aral i'm surprised any of these people working for big tech have any morals at all since they are working at nasty, nasty companies. they should be less naive about who they work for.
@tootbrute @aral As if morality had anything to do with place or type of work. 
@MartinaNeumayer @aral well i don't think anyone forced them to work for a huge salary at a big tech company.
but it's true, all profit seeking companies suck. some suck a lot more than others though IMHO.
@MartinaNeumayer @tootbrute So working at Greenpeace is morally equivalent to working at ExxonMobil?
@aral @tootbrute I don't know. Never worked for them, so I can't state anything about. Job is only a job, and as such has nothing to do with someone's type of morality. Job art doesn't matter and does not play any particular role to someone personality, character trait etc. Thinking that way you can also say similar things about sexworkers as well for example. That those people have no morality. And that will be a very heavy bs. Moreover, it would be a clear sign of discrimination or harassment.
@aral @tootbrute Besides.. At first you should define the morality. Is it yours, or mine, or I don't know.. Van Goghs one or perhaps Tina Turners one? Every single person has different, its own, individual one. So tell me please, which one is the right one? And why this particular one only, but no other ones? You're getting a paradox here, I hope.
@MartinaNeumayer @tootbrute @aral It has. A lot, in fact. *But* following through is a privilege. I.e. I can afford to not work for any MANGA, or defense contractors, even though it could be considered a career limiting move.
@schrotthaufen @tootbrute @aral Nope. It doesn't. People often mistaken it with the conscious decisions abilities. Morality is a part of our character. Developed in the childhood times. Something that become a constant value at the end of this development time. Once learned and "hardcoded" can not be changed anymore. It stays with us as it is till the day of death.
@MartinaNeumayer @tootbrute @aral “Working for people whose business is deeply unethical isn’t unethical per se” is quite a statement.
@schrotthaufen @tootbrute @aral Ethics and morality are other popularly confused/mistaken concepts. Please inform yourself or learn a bit about the topic to avoid any future confusions.
@schrotthaufen @tootbrute @aral 2/2 If the type/art of work performed changes someone's morality/character traits, it only means that the person is excessively susceptible to influence, and therefore has a significant psychological problem and should consult a specialist.
And this is not my opinion, but a medically proven fact, confirmed by clinical research.
@aral I'm always of some mixed feelings about these statements, but this line in particular makes me absolutely livid? Because of how... oblivious (in the most polite terms I can find) it is:
Google has built custom tools for Israel’s Ministry of “Defense,” and has doubled down on contracting with the Israeli Occupation Forces, since the start of its genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. By continuing its lies, Google is blatantly disrespecting and disregarding consumers, the media, as well as, most importantly, its workers.
No, not "most importantly" the workers. Most importantly the people who are being hit with a goddamned genocide.
@aral Why are you attacking people who confronted their employer and lost their jobs? They did what we need far more people to do.
