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Oooh, ooh, ooh… look what just arrived! I’ve been waiting almost a year for it and boy was it worth the wait. My new Linux laptop is a… tablet? Yep. The StarLabs StarLite.

Oh and the screen on this thing! 😍

ie.starlabs.systems/pages/star

Aral Balkan

So, first issue, popovers (eg., drop-down menus, app menus, etc.) don’t work on GTK 4 apps (like System Settings in GNOME) on touchscreen devices.

Three-year old bug here: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/

I guess that means tablets are not currently supported under GNOME.

Will see if KDE Plasma works on touchscreen Linux tablets.

*sigh!*

Update: Issue fixed in GNOME. Works in latest Fedora (tested w. Silverblue). Ubuntu doesn’t. HT @sonny

GitLabCannot Open (GTK4) Popovers With Touch-Only Input (#1523) · Issues · GNOME / mutter · GitLab Steps to reproduce Have a touchscreen device (tested on a laptop, Dell XPS 13 9370) Using touch-only input,...
#gnome#linux#tablet

@aral I haven't tried PureOS myself but given that it's designed to run on Librem phones it's hopefully usable on touchscreen, and I think it's based on gtk.

@aral it should be fixed in a recent GNOME version, complain to your distro

Fedora 40 should work just fine

@sonny The bug’s still listed as open but, sure, I will test with latest Fedora. Starlabs is shipping with latest Ubuntu and a number of other operating systems. Will let them know to at least not ship Ubuntu until they update.

@aral

Ubuntu can backport the fix.

The issue is now closed on GNOME side.

Thanks @verdre for fixing the bugs and making GNOME better on mobile/touch 🤩

@aral This worth anything? This is on my Asus with a touchscreen.

@Professor_Stevens All good. @sonny informed me that the bug has been fixed and I can confirm that it is in the latest Fedora Silverblue.

@aral @sonny

Cool.

Now, I realize FOSS is all someone's passion project, so I don't want to be a pest. But I was kind of stunned to see that GNOME only supports two zoom sizes, 100% and 200% (which might as well be labeled "much too small" and "way too big").

A workaround is to use the "large type" setting in Accessibility. But people are telling me I can get more zoom levels if I turn on some "experimental" flag.

Seriously? Zooming is experimental for GNOME in 2024?

@Professor_Stevens @aral

It's fractional scaling, not zooming.

I agree we desperately need it and we are working on it but if you think you can do better, you're welcome to join the party :)

People keep complaining to a bunch of (mostly) volunteers about an underfunded project used by multimillion revenue companies 🥳

@Professor_Stevens @sonny A big part of the problem is hardware vendors who don’t understand what resolution to implement for different screen sizes.

Case in point: the display on my new StarLite is 12.5" and supports a resolution of 2,880×1,920 which is absolutely perfect at 200%. Just gorgeous. (I believe StarLabs had an issue with sourcing this panel so future panels will be slightly lower resolution sadly, at least for the moment.)

@aral This may reveal my ignorance, but can Windows or MacOS be installed and run on a tablet? Or do tablets have to run a tablet-specific OS?

@rspfau Not that you should install Windows on anything but Microsoft have Surface tablets that run some mutation of the OS. You’d likely have issues just installing stock Windows on a tablet. (See first point.) MacOS is proprietary as all fuck so, no, it won’t run on anything but a Mac without much hackery (but Apple will happily sell you an iPad).

Both GNOME and Plasma, however, follow a responsive approach and support touch so they will run on tablets like this one. (To various degrees.)

@aral thanks for the update

Please complain to your operating system or hardware vendor in the future 🙏 Really anyone who makes money of this product.

Not to a community of (mostly) volunteers.

@sonny I’m not complaining to anyone. I’m sharing my experiences. *breathe, breathe*

OK, thanks for your help.

Take care + all the best.

@sonny@floss.social please take this in the light hearted way it is meant... You do realise your post here could be met with a similar kind of response? i.e. please take your criticisms of other peoples posts directly to the person in question and not in a public community?

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@aral @sonny Wait, did it work out if the box on silverblue?