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@thestrangelet @lucasmz It isn't the opposite. Aral is twisting words to claim people are not supporting accessibility. Everyone involved wants it to be better, so why throw around words like ableist?

@soller

@aral is pointing out the simple fact that companies with a quite decent overall budget are pushing out essential software that excludes people who had been better supported before. As everybody trying out accessibility features under Wayland vs. x11 can easily experience.

Nowhere is he posting blanket statements like your "people are not supporting accessibility". These are your misrepresentations of what he is saying.

Quote him correctly.

@thestrangelet @lucasmz

@katzenberger

> From the actually-what-you’re-referring-to-as-ableism-is-GNU/ableism department

Quoted the blanket statement.

Not only that, but the post complains that a Fedora maintainer said that patches are welcome, and yet the first instinct in response to that is to want to block them? Not a productive attitude.

If you care about the problem, then instead of calling people abliest, go help the people who are working on this problem. GNOME is backing AccessKit, which will be in COSMIC.

@mmstick

I really admire your text cutting skills, your deliberate effort to make this look like a blanket statement.

You are very well aware whom exactly @aral criticized in this post, and for what specific reaction.

@katzenberger @mmstick @aral every linux distribution? is that blanket enough?

@ragectl @katzenberger @mmstick Quote me correctly: “a glaring accessibility issue in nearly every major Linux distribution on the planet”

mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112647420

GNOME and KDE, the two major display environments, both default to Wayland.

- Fedora, RHEL, etc.
- Ubuntu
- OpenSUSE
- Any other distribution that defaults to default behaviour of GNOME & KDE

PopOS doesn’t, but apparently System76 decided this is their hill to die on anyway. 🤷‍♂️

@aral @katzenberger @mmstick in that case, I was referring to the statement here mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112638007 so you're quoted correctly

Aral Balkan

@ragectl @katzenberger @mmstick No, without the rest of the sentence my words are out of context as the rest of the sentence qualifies the bit you quoted and limits its scope.

“Every Linux distribution” (which is what you quoted) is not the same as “Every Linux distribution that ships with Wayland by default – and that’s almost every major Linux distribution” and you know it.

Anyway, now the context has been added in this thread so I don’t see any reason to bikeshed this further.