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What the "responsible AI" crowd appear to be overlooking is that they have to use the infrastructure provided by the "irresponsible AI" crowd

@rgarner They’re not overlooking it, they just don’t care. They’re the same crowd.

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@aral not entirely. I know a data scientist for a large charity for example – they're a proponent of "responsible", and there are more like them.

Absolutely not the same crowd in those kinds of cases, though I see why you see it in your post

Aral Balkan

@rgarner Oh, without a doubt there are folks like that, who do actually want to do good. I’d be very surprised if any of the ones working at Mozilla are actually AI proponents themselves. But yes, part of the raison d’etre of Mozilla is to be a honeypot for such folks. It’s always best when they’re contained in environments where we can ensure that they cannot threaten the status quo. And why it’s important for Big Tech to own/control/sponsor the alternatives (see also: Social Web Foundation.)

@aral *sigh* I shouldn't speak about this stuff to be dispirited before I've even had my toast

@rgarner Sorry :( If it’s any consolation, I don’t enjoy it either.

That said, it’s far from hopeless and at least we have the skills to try and build alternatives. (That’s what keeps me going, at least.)

Off to breakfast myself now.

Bon appetit :)

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