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Neoliberals: gross inequality is fine, actually.
Fascists: excellent, this is what we believe also.
Neoliberals: wait, not like that!
@aral do you actually have any meaningful examples of the third line? Because where ever fascists take power from eastern Europe, through France, Austria, Germany, etc. up to north America, neoliberals (and some "social democrats") mostly just seem to either capitulate, jump on the bandwagon or at least try to get the voters back by outfascisting the fascists.
@matus_chochlik The third line is just for keeping up appearances. Until it’s not necessary anymore.
Yeah. Cosmetics and aesthetics, but fought over with big fanfare and seemingly fiercely by all the political brass until they settle on "rough" with everybody defending the new norm. Disgusting, innit.
@matus_chochlik @aral The third line is a stock punchline in this joke. It is never said with sincerity and is meant to highlight a hypocrisy.
@matus_chochlik @aral
When I hear “social democrat” I think of people like AOC, who are the only ones trying to fight back. The overwhelming majority of Democrstic Party politicians in the US are neoliberal ghouls, aka Republicans-lite, not social democrats.
@freediverx @aral I live in a small picturesque :P country, where we have in the government two parties which explicitly call themselves "social democratic", which campaigned on "stop the migrants", "end woke", "there are only two genders" and other crap like that, and are currently governing with a borderline nazi party, that is destroying independent cultural institutions. This situation is nowhere near unique in Europe. These political labels have become almost completely meaningless here.
@matus_chochlik @aral
I treat these the way I treat countries with authoritarian governments who include the word democratic in their country name like the PRK.
See also the OG Nazi party in Germany which included the word socialist in their name.
@freediverx that is why it was in scare quotes in the post
@matus_chochlik
I overlooked the scare quotes. But corporate Democrats never use that term to refer to themselves. You will never see that since they join their Republican counterparts in treating socialism as a dirty word.
Check out the story below and note that the corporate Dems have never come together to denounce the word “fascism”.
@freediverx @matus_chochlik Social democrats aren't socialists. Social democrats are capitalists who want a bit more regulation than the neoliberal or libertarian capitalists. But at their core, they are still pro capitalism (with the means of production in the hands of the rich) and against socialism (which would mean taking away the means of production from the ruling class).
That the corporate democrats don't even want to call themselves social democrats tells you all you need to know about the USA.
A quote that is (probably wrongly) attributed to Benito Mussolini, the original fascist himself:
> “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”
@davidculley @matus_chochlik
America has two political parties, conservatives and fascists.
@freediverx @matus_chochlik @davidculley And with Tony Blair and Gerhard Schröder in the 1990s two of the strongest social democratic parties in Europe turned 110% neoliberal. And - with the short glimpse of hope under Corbyn - it stayed that way. Totally worthless!
@ahm42 @matus_chochlik @davidculley
There’s nothing remotely “social“ about any of the politicians you mentioned. They are poster children for the neoliberal movement that abandoned the working class in exchange for subservience to billionaires and corporations.
