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I’m gonna say it louder for the folks in the back: Mozilla is not what you think it is. Mozilla is not what they say they are. Mozilla is just another for-profit Silicon Valley tech company that has a not-for-profit doing its PR.
#mozilla #BigTech #SiliconValley #bullshit https://eupolicy.social/@ilumium/114306918813909843
@aral I remember someone linking this some time back:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2025/04/01/finally-mozilla-thunderbird-takes-on-gmail-with-new-email-service/
and I immediately disregarded it for same reasons. Apparently they are different "entities" which I don't fully understand. But potato, potato.
@aral hmmm what does this remind me of *looks at OpenAI*
@aral So what browser do you recommend?
@vancura @aral @Vivaldi There’s no perfect browser, and it’s good to hold Firefox to a high standard along with all the others, but context matters.
It seems like there are two primary options: either a browser based on Chromium or one based on Firefox.
And the Chromium family already has more than 70% market share, creating a kind monoculture.
Maybe one day there will be a strong third option based on LadyBird or something else, but that’s not today
@aral Mozilla is the only progressive tech company following the advertising and editorial picks model to fund its browser. It's buying us time from a permacomputing perspective to:
- learn the difference between free software and open source/hobbyism,
- fund and i18n free software,
- fund, develop, i18n the Emacs model with Nyxt and lem.el,
- fund, develop, i18n the SICP/Skribe (Haunt/Skribilo) ecosystem,
- fund and develop Org, and
- aggressively develop the Gemini ecosystem.
It's a cultural, technical, and organizational problem.
@aral So yeah our goal is not to depend on Mozilla anymore. This is neither healthy nor sustainable. I'm with you, 100%.
And I'm not accounting for the non-text use cases but they exist and they're legitimate. We could bridge PeerTube instances to Gemini capsules and let third-party programs download videos as torrents.
Short clips and podcasts could be self-hosted with YUNOHOST and RSS feeds, so funding the relevant projects (Elfeed, Nyxt, Newsflash, etc.) could be a good start.
Just make a spreadsheet with the number of times you've downloaded free software and you've been satisfied, or it was promising but too experimental at the moment. Retroactively give $10 for every time that happened.
@aral an alternate interpretation of this is that some people just really love to misrepresent what was said because shittalking Mozilla gives you all the likes and boosts on social media. And conveniently, there's no transcript or recording available that would clearly show that.
