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So, basically, @Gnome Web can’t display sites with valid TLS and so you might want to consider using another browser.
PS. In case it isn’t clear without context: I love Gnome Web and it’s my primary browser on Linux and this is me vocalising what someone who doesn’t know or care about libraries, etc., would think and do when faced with this bug.
For updates, see my other toots.
(And definitely use and help improve Gnome Web because it is one of the few browsers I know that isn’t either built by, funded by or otherwise in cahoots with surveillance capitalists.)
@aral Odysseus lets you say "I don't trust this site anyways".
@aral GNOME Web does rely heavily on (100% free software) code provided by Apple, so take that as you will.
And if you don't look GNOME Web's UI, Midori and my own Odysseus share these qualities and it's backend.
@alcinnz I’d call Apple a capitalist, not a surveillance capitalist. Though greed/extreme stupidity/a change in management could always push them over. Currently, in jurisdictions where it does not make it impossible for them to do business (see China), they have an absolute competitive advantage in privacy over their main rivals. So what remains to be seen is whether they can capitalise on that or throw it away. They seem to be doing the former. Still a T$ corporation though.
@alcinnz @aral While it is definitely true that a good chunk of WebKit because Apple, let's not forget about the project roots (KDE's KHTML), and that non-Apple ports use a good amount of non-Apple code: libsoup for networking, glib-networking + GnuTLS for crypto, Geoclue for geolocation, Enchant for spell-checking, GStreamer for multimedia, Cairo + OpenGL for graphics, FreeType2 + Harfbuzz for text... Quite a lot in the end!
@alcinnz @aral Also, there are routinely non-Apple developers contributing to the shared parts of WebKit, and it is in everybody's interest to keep tabs. If there would be anything bad, we would know. This even goes along with Apple's interests because they can use it as proof to back their claims about caring for their user's privacy. While it is certainly a complex beast of a codebase, it is more manageable than Chromium's (and I know from experience)
@aperezdc @aral Yes, I love that WebKit likes to reuse the same OS libraries applications do! And the use of GStreamer is great, as now the only reason a video won't play for me is if it's got DRM I'm trying to avoid anyways.
I would add though that GNOME's pretty much the only non-Apple port of WebKit left after Google confused things with their "Blink" fork.
And I didn't know how much non-Apple contributions there are anymore to the core.
@alcinnz @aral I haven't seen anyone do stats lately on the repository and publishing their results. On the other hand CSS Grid layout (to mention a big core feature) was implemented by my colleagues at Igalia. We also maintain support for 32-bit architectures (mainly ARM and MIPS) because Apple only cares about 64-bit nowadays, we are doing WebRTC work, and help maintain two ports (the GTK+ one and WPE).
@aral
I use GNOME Web as my primary browser too, though it was driven by Firefox hanging the entire machine after rewrite in rust. But now I have another reason.
