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Neoliberal Universal Basic Income (UBI):
- Give folks X amount a month
- Remove the social safety net (free healthcare, etc.) “because now there’s UBI”
Progressive Universal Basic Income (UBI):
- Pay everyone a living wage
- Also keep the social safety net
Very different things.
@aral Good point. When talking about UBI we should always make clear what kind of UBI we mean.
@aral Why people call it neoliberal instead of right wing anarchy?
@aral Yes, the world is Black and White.
No, offering UBI shall mean the end of the social wages, and shall not be connected to healthcare or other non-money based social services. But we live in wildly different countries and possibly one can't even imagine the other. You possibly mean different things using the same words as me...
And I'm libertarian, or liberal, and kind of center-left if you need to tag my opinion.
@aral i was waiting for such summary. Is it huge generalization?
@aral they think we are stupid ... "the growing health sector"
@aral is progressive UBI compatible with a growth economy?
if yes, our focus must be put elsewhere.
we must first stabilise local life - e.g. improve conditions that lessen the chance of needing to lean on a health system.
means local food, water and shelter first.
"local" may be assumed to be 100-1000 people MAX (less = better)
also local sovereignty. from individually over our bodies, to community over decision-making
we must stop relying on singular, large scale solutions to anything