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So remember how I was saying you shouldn’t have to know or care if your operating system is immutable for an immutable operating system to be usable by everyday folks? (You know, clever folks, like brain surgeons and astronauts, not just your regular garden variety tech hobbyist with time to spare following instructions from a wiki.)
Seems others think so too… #VanillaOS sounds very promising. #Fedora #Silverblue folks should take some notes.
@aral oh hey, thanks, I forgot to take a look! I think pretty much anything (else big) would have been better than Ubuntu as a base distro, but Mirko Brombin has seemingly done a great job with the UX part 
@aral Hm. How can there be a choice of package management when Ubuntu is the base? Seems more like optionally adding to it.
Hm. "Community" directly links to discord, code is hosted by Micrtosoft. #AlignedValues
Other than that, neat. Makes me curious what a "Chocolate" Distro would be like…
@treefit @aral I would assume when you build a community around a Free Software operating system as alternativeto MacOS and Windows you kind of left the idea to cater to default "normies".
But I get your point, even without having used Discrod. It still says something about a community that asks members to maintain walled garden-accounts in order to participate, though.
@treefit @aral Quick reminder: #DeltaChat requires a Microsoft account for raising issues and contributing code. Just saying 
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@mray @aral you can still use the forum for reporting issues, but sure it's a point, but I don't think moving now would result in more contributors, just in a lot of work migrating the CI.
Like yeah transifex is bad, also in terms of usability - its really laggy, but migration is quite some work and will our translators follow us to a new platform?
@treefit @aral With that attitude towards the network effect I don't see how DeltaChat has anything to offer; You can still send emails, even while having a WhatsApp account - right?
Incidentally Codeberg just recently added a translation service (weblate)… I'm certain your contributors would understand a move towards that direction.
@aral even though they link to their repo, it never looks good when a new project has no about section.
@aral Hello! Maybe it should be the other way around :)
In Fedora Silverblue, every change you make can be reverted, even updates, because OSTree works like a `git`, where everything is a commit.
In Vanilla OS, this does not happen. And every change you make to the system is permanent. `almost` only achieves immutability by setting the `i` flag on all files and directories, nothing else.
@aral A driver manager is a fascinating idea. It's something we *shouldn't* need, but very clearly do. I look forward to learning more about it.
On an unrelated note, this website is really hard to read. All the icons are text, there are big flickery flashy images when the page loads, it's completely broken in reader mode somehow, and – fascinatingly – I have to turn *on* the screen reader to access FAQs past the first? (I "Click to Expand", but nothing's happening.)
@aral@mastodon.ar.al Hello! Maybe it should be the other way around :)
In Fedora Silverblue, every change you make can be reverted, even updates, because OSTree works like a git, where everything is a commit.
In Vanilla OS, this does not happen. And every change you make to the system is permanent. almost only achieves immutability by setting the i flag on all files and directories, nothing else.