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Mozilla is what Greenpeace would be if Greenpeace was run by petroleum industry executives.
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@aral I'm not very well versed in tech news and the like, what has Mozilla been doing? /gen
It has been doing not so much. Like climate boards driven by petroleum managers
@notspookypip @aral
This is my summary:
There is no such thing as good Big Tech, yet Mozilla believes there is and wants to be a good Big Tech company. Mozilla isn't nearly as reformed as they imagine themselves to be. Mozilla imagines themselves ethical, but they are much closer to their tech bro origins than they admit to themselves or the world.
They took years to oust their homophobic exec (who now runs the Brave Browser corp. so, you know, don't use that browser or boost that company).
@notspookypip @aral
The specific issue is them launching their own AI initiative, positioning themselves as uniquely suited to do it ethically. When what they're doing is chasing a fad.
They would better serve the community to invest the millions of dollars that they announced to fund this new mozilla[.]ai, instead into AI countermeasures to protect people from the unethical and dangerous state of the art.
The current AI push is VC desperation & snake oil after NFT and crypto collapsed.
@notspookypip @aral
TL;DR — looks a lot like Mozilla is trying to replicate what Apple did with ad surveillance, and trick us into thinking of them as being on our side
@notspookypip Ditto.
And take my frustration with a grain of salt. Mozilla may still be the best choice amidst a mixed bag of choices.
@toolbear @notspookypip They’re not there to serve the community. They’re there to make a profit. They’re “just another” half-billion dollar for-profit “Silicon Valley tech company” wrapped in a not-for-profit public relations shell.
(Quotes from what their then head of public policy told me at a conference we were speaking at – “I don’t understand why you’re holding us to such a higher standard.”)
“When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.” – Maya Angelou
“I don’t understand why you’re holding us to such a higher standard.”
But... But that's their product. That's literally why I use Firefox.
@coldhotman Did I mention my jaw literally fell open and I was speechless for a moment when I heard it?
Yep. Compare these contradictory sentiments:
> “I don’t understand why you’re holding us to such a higher standard.”
With this PR release when CEO Eich was forced to resign by a pressure campaign in 2014:
> Mozilla prides itself on being **held to a different standard** and, this past week, we didn’t live up to it. …We didn’t act **like you’d expect Mozilla to act**. — https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/brendan-eich-steps-down-as-mozilla-ceo/
(archive) https://archive.ph/AHNaT
@toolbear Thanks, that’s going in my bookmarks :)
@aral@mastodon.ar.al @toolbear@union.place @notspookypip@sunbeam.city Vivaldi is what supposed to be pre-360 Opera
@aral I like Mozilla, they're one of the few places producing a non chrome in a dress browser
They also do very little to actually promote open standards. I wrote extensively about this in this thread
https://sociale.network/@oblomov/109891147483410236
(or in blog form here <http://wok.oblomov.eu/tecnologia/opera-requiem-3/>)
So they are, at best, “the lesser evil” rather than an active force of good.
@aral
Wasn't Greenpeace financed by selling russian Gas in germany at some point?
@SylvainDe Y’know, nothing would surprise me at this point :)