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@aral here comes the clone army. Defederate.

@aral Yes, the religion of growth based economics is a cancer.

The cultural disease is terminal autcollab.org/2024/11/10/heali.

The WEIRD indoctrination system makes sure that all children are indoctrinated in Homo Economicus® from a very young age, before we learn anything substantial about Gaia and the living world. This is possibly the most cruel, dehumanising, and life denying part of WEIRD cultures.

Autistic Collaboration · Healing – Resisting internalised ableismIn the Western Educated Industrialised Rich Democratic (WEIRD) world we live in what philosopher Guy Debord described as The Society of the Spectacle. The reality presented to us via the media and …

@jornbettin @aral

WEIRD cultures. Brilliant. And so, sadly, true.

About the economic system, I've got some references to it in the article I'm writing about whether parents should be paid.

I love your articles by the way! What I'm actually doing is hunting for that page you sent me some time ago, to read - and finding lots of other treasure, instead!

@aral I, for one, find that the millions people I interact with directly every day here on Mastodon are sufficient for me. The extra couple millions on BlueSky aren't necessary to improve my life.

@unexpectedteapot @aral are you saying that rich people shouldn't just make more money at the expense of all life on earth? how dare

@unexpectedteapot @aral Have to agree with society on this one. If global population continues to grow then the global economy needs to grow to accomodate everyone earning a living.

Also growth doesn't always mean consuming more resources. If you use the existing resources more efficiently then you can experience growth with the same input resources via productivity increases.

@steeznson @unexpectedteapot @aral but what you're describing is growth to meet new conditions, not "growth for growth's sake".

@Mabande @unexpectedteapot @aral Yeah I probably accidentally deployed a strawman there because often people online seem to be against the concept of growth altogether (for some puzzling reason). Wasn't expecting a more nuanced take! I think I agree with you.

@unexpectedteapot @aral you don't understand, if number doesn't go up then I can't just sit on my ass with my stocks magically going up in price infinitely as a means of income, and if they don't go up faster every year I'll never have a raise! billionares deserve raises too! :neocat_googly_woozy_scream:

Well actually it is, cancer cells are essentially reverted to single cell organisms, but people interact for productive ends, not just growth for the sake of growth but growth for the sake of longer lives, better nutrition, more freedom to travel and move about, more comfortable dwellings, better education, etc. I don't know why this anti-humanist movement that seems to have started with Henry Kissinger is so fucking popular, but if you think there are too many people on the planet, eliminate yourself, leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

@aral I'm kinda impressed with the angle there: bluesky, funded by millions in VC cash and with a dedicated pr staff has after three years reached the same numbers as the fedi, funded by the mental health of enthusiasts, and that's a fantastic success?

Maybe it could be interesting to report on that bsky's cost per user this far is way above one dollar, fedi's is a fraction of that.

@aral@mastodon.ar.al The annoying thing is I also seen FediBros thinking Mastodon is on same competing level as BlueSky or Thread which felt so forced. I like to think of it as it in their own lane and it not going to please everyone as most average Joe just want the feeling of Twitter without Elon Musk and BlueSky is the closest they get to it