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“Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about ‘selling data’)”
– Mozilla
;) ;)
(At least Mark Zuckerberg had the good grace to call us “dumb fucks” to our faces.)
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/
@aral I'm feeling so disillusioned and disappointed with ProtonMail and Mozilla
At least when I reluctantly recommend Google, I can list all their major sins and downsides, and there's no egg on my face when friends are bitten later
But I won't be recommending ProtonMail or Mozilla anymore, and I'm already working to migrate away from their offerings immediately
@jokeyrhyme @aral That's good idea.
I used to consume all services they offered but starting from a few weeks ago now I don't use any of their products, except the Proton mail (for now).
@aral I read it, but I dont understand it.
So they still sell my data to ad companies and show me ads (e.g. in new tabs), which they didn't do before, right? Can I opt out, or do I need to ditch anything Firefox related?
Anyone knows if firefox based browsers such as Zen Browser are also affected by this?
@aral found this video that explains the changes. Will watch it later, I think that explains it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W1kE3qA8FcA&t=10s&pp=2AEKkAIB
Still not sure about Zen Browser though
@aral I’ve been dragging my heels in switching from Firefox to LibreWolf (since I’m lazy) but I guess I really should just do it already and be done with it.
“We never sell your data” is because, in some places, the LEGAL definition of “sale of data” is broad and evolving. As an example, the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.”
That's fucking what I expect when talking about "selling data". The way they present the situation makes it worse --'
"Oh we dont sell your data, we only disclose it to third parties in exchange for other valuable consideration"
@aral here's an update about all this: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/
@julienw Yes, that’s where the quote is from.
@aral @julienw « LEGAL definition of “sale of data” is broad and evolving. As an ex. [CCPA] defines “sale” as the “selling, renting, releasing, disclosing, disseminating, making available, transferring, or otherwise communicating orally, in writing, or by electronic or other means, a consumer’s personal information by [a] business to another business or a third party” in exchange for “monetary” or “other valuable consideration.” »
That's a pretty good definition of the "sale" I don't want.
@aral "We're not selling your data, you dumb fuck. Here's what we do instead"
* Proceeds to explain that, indeed, they do sell your data *
@aral They - Mozilla stuff same as the Mastodon ones - forget about one most important thing which is: their internal rules or some shitty TOS, no matter what, aren't the laws and therefore can't stand above the laws nor violate them. All those papa-lapap fancy things otherwise called bullshit, are under the law letter. So.. People are able to opt-out and still have the right to use such services as they were before the changes. They can even successfully sue such company, managers, ceo's etc.