With the transition to a cashless society, millimeter wave body scanners, stop and search, WiFi and Bluetooth scanning by default, and G4S everywhere, the construction of the Dutch surveillance state seems to be on schedule for completion in time for the swearing in of prime minister Wilders in about ten year’s time.
@aral @firstname.lastname@example.org is doing the same on large train stations. Btw, wich airport is that?
@aral But..."Your privacy is ensured" !
@aral none of that feels like my privacy is ensured...
oooo that's creepy. I mean,...I've expected it but it still is creepy
@aral ugh. My only hope is that some countries will not be able to pay for surveillance engineers because IT knowledge is ridiculously overpriced. Once in place, surveillance is really hard to demolish.
„Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.“ biting us in the ass again.
We’d have to kill it before it lays eggs, which is probably too late.
@aral Gibson preconed all this, but we took his visions for novels....
"Your privacy is ensured."
is like putting "honest" at the end of a sentence, it confirms what has just been stated is a pack of lies.
@aral Welcome to the Netherlands 🙂 You will also find this on larger trainstations in our country...
How convenient for the corporations watching us, we can be traced every step.
And it's not limited to Schiphol, some time ago upon leaving a food truck festival (held in a public area), this sign explained to me I had been tracked unknowingly via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
@Deiru @bob @rik Wow, they do? I had no idea. How does that work? So, just so we’re clear, what you’re saying is the way we try and protect ourselves from surveillance is to switch off our devices and disconnect instead of complaining or trying to change the system? Do you have a manifesto or something somewhere that outlines this daring new vision? I’m champing at the bit to learn more about it.
@Deiru @bob @rik It just riles me up when I hear people utter some variant of “if you don’t like it, don’t use it” which is akin to the beloved fascist statement “love it or leave it”. No, we will and we do criticise, we will and we do resist and oppose, and we will and we do build alternatives and throughout all this, we will and we do keep using digital/networked technology and infrastructures instead of disconnecting & keeping quiet.
@aral I'm afraid it will be worse than Wilders.
@aral but Aral - your privacy is ensured! 🙄
Might be a silly question but what does "bluetooth and wifi tracking" mean in this context?
@switchingsocial Tracking your location via WiFi and Bluetooth. I guess it might also refer to tracking your online activity if you connect via their open WiFi network (I didn’t check if there was one) but usually it refers to the former.
@aral I'm in Schipol just now. I opted out of the body scanner (with no issues) and randomize my MAC addresses to make tracking data unlinkable. There are ways you can make your voice heard.
@aral here's one at our trainstations https://me.frankmeeuwsen.xyz/media/qYtpi6-RBOfxIJ8y_Dw
Although following the privacy link on the sign I then had to download a 29 page document on which the wifi/bluetooth and tracking is only described in detail on page 10.
Main reason given is simply "the legitimate ", around which are claims its being done to track flows of people and travel methods for planning, data is anonymised and also how long it is kept for (standard EU requirements)
All of this is only available in Dutch, not the English version of the site >>
this has also been done in London UK (with more emphasis on the use of the data for commercial purposes)
@vfrmedia @aral Last year we had a big hoopla with cameras hidden in billboards on trainstations https://www.iamexpat.nl/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/hidden-cameras-dutch-advertisement-billboards-ns-train-stations-can-see-you
Ipswich isn't yet affluent enough for them, we have a few JCDecaux electronic boards outside shops and in the main bit of town, I don't know 100% if these have cameras (I thnk the one outside Asda might have them)
@vfrmedia @frank @aral Which reminds me... if you turn off WiFi on your phone, but (on Android at least) you have location set to "accurate", your phone will still use wifi and bt every now and again to determine your location. Wonder if you're leaking MACs then too. I am using a geofencing app to turn off WiFi when I leave my house or work, but that might not be enough.
@aral and that's why you need MAC address randomization on all network interfaces
War is Peace,
Freedom is Slavery,
Surveillance is Privacy
Thank you for your wisdom, BB.
you forgot the most relevant verse:
ignorance is strength
surveillance is protection
@aral There's a village near the German border that isn't and won't soon be connected to the Dutch optical fiber network. The villagers requested a connection to the German network, but this was forbidden by the Dutch government. The Dutch govt probably can't intercept data on a foreign network so easily...
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@aral "Schiphol may, in certain cases, transfer personal data to countries outside the EU. If that happens, Schiphol will ensure that the transfer and the processing by third parties takes place in accordance with the statutory regulations."
I have NO DOUBT, the transfer of my personal data to USA / UK / Russia is exactly in line with the statutory regulations of USA / UK / Russia.
What a wonderful world this will be ....
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