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@aral there is not THE capitalism. Some capitalist systems might be broken by design. In general capitalism has brought us education, science, health and freedom compared to what was there before and the alternatives between. Lets fix our capitalist systems! You already brought up great suggestions like Stand-ups and regulation adjustments.

@Jonius @aral erm I think these things all came from anything other then from capitalists. All these things are available in countries with a strong social system, which was created over decades because of riots, individuals fighting for it and previous systematic failures. Nothing of that comes from capitalism. And if you think that the taxes coming from a capitalistic system are actually paying these social services, this is only because of regulations, which are undermined wherever possible.

@der_On @aral we are all capitalists. Capitalism means that private ownership is protected and there are banks, allowing anyone to start a business or buy a house without the need of being born rich. It's no coincidence that democracy and social services have been established inside that system.

@aral @der_On Imo to differ means to see capitalism as a big frame in which a lot of bad things happend and a lot of good things evolved. Socialism in contrast might have good intentions but has always led to suffering in the first place. I might be biased a bit because of my parents who have suffered from socialism for many years...