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@KAOS sure, good examples but I can't remember a single situation where I have seen a bench as the solution. There is probably very good design for that but I don't think the typical standard bench is that design as I can't seem to picture it @henry79 @aral

@SebastienK There’s probably a good reason for that, Sebastien; you were likely never left in a situation where a bench was your only solution.

@KAOS@dragonscave.space @henry79

@aral wrong,, I would have preferred housing over that bench 🤷🏽‍♂️

As an ex user I really can't recommend any public bench as a sleeping spot.

@KAOS @henry79

Aral Balkan

@SebastienK The question isn’t either/or, though. No one’s saying people should sleep on benches. What I’m saying is that if the world is so fucked that people are left with no choice but to sleep on a bench than those benches shouldn’t be specifically created to be as hostile as possible to those people.

Am I just not able to articulate this clearly?

@KAOS@dragonscave.space @henry79

@aral I agree with you but I just react because I saw the picture first and thought "nice" and then I read that it was hostile design.

I'm not fully against designing places with purposes in mind so I get why you would want to have a place where people sit down not too long by design.

But it becomes a problem when you do this everywhere with as sole purpose to get rid of some people
@KAOS @henry79