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Far right: full genocide!
Far left: no genocide!
Centrists: Such extremism! You’re both just as bad as each other… Everyone knows what the world needs is a moderate, healthy amount of genocide.
@aral 108 hostages still. Zero proposals on the table to return them from Hamas.
@mwguy 1. Netanyahu propped up Hamas. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
2. Netanyahu has systematically foiled the talks to get the hostages back because he wants to continue his genocide. https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-08-25/ty-article-opinion/.premium/netanyahu-wants-an-all-out-war-in-the-north-south-and-center/00000191-8583-d632-add9-b5f3c6950000
3. Hamas is not the Palestinian people. (Hamas can get fucked.) By conflating the two you are engaging in genocide apologism.
4. Israel has thousands of Palestinian hostages (only we call them “detainees” ) https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/28/world/middleeast/palestinians-detained-in-israel.html… (1/2)
5. Israel and Jewish settlers have murdered over 600 Palestinians in the West Bank since Oct 7: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/29/world/israel-hamas-gaza-war#the-times-interviewed-muhammad-jaber-the-militant-leader-who-was-just-killed-by-israeli-forces
6. Israel has murdered over 40,000 Palestinians since Oct 7. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-statistics-40000-7ebec13101f6d08fe10cedbf5e172dde
Now go away. (2/2)
Also: from January 1st to October 6th 2023, Israel murdered over 200 Palestinians. Before October 7th Israel kept over 800 Palestinians hostages (detained without charges, lawyers or contact with their family, some of them children). After October 7th that number reached 5000 people by the end of the year, and it's still over 2k today.
So Israel keeps 20x more hostages than Hamas today. At no point in the last 20 years they have kept less hostages than those kidnapped on oct 7th.
Hamas are scum, but every single evil thing they do towards Israeli citizens had been a common practice, just an order of magnitude worse, of the IDF against Palestinians FOR DECADES.
Sorry, it looks my numbers were off:
The number of palestinian hostages held by israel before october 7th was 1300, not 800. The number they got after oct 17th, at its peak, was 10k.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli–Palestinian_prisoner_exchange
And "zero proposals" is literally a lie. Hamas leadership proposed freeing all the hostages in exchange of israel doing the same with their palestinian hostages. Israel refused.
As part of the negociations and limited deals both parties have been reaching since then, israel had freed 170 CHILDREN they hold as hostage. 170 children .