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Aral Balkan

Folks, please do delete your X accounts, by all means, but I’d be very surprised if that meant that your data is deleted or that Elon Musk won’t be using it to train his AI, etc.

I put in a data deletion request after deactivating my account in 2022 and set the Irish DPC on them when they didn’t. After several back and forths, with the Irish DPC being less than worthless, I gave up. Afaict, there is zero enforcement of GDPR Article 17.

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Letter from Twitter to me. Highlighted area reads: The right to have personal data deleted under Article 17 of the GDPR is not an absolute right and the interaction between data deletion and retention can be complex. Alt text for full letter doesn’t fit in Mastodon’s alt-text character limit. The link to it will be in the first reply to the post.
Letter from Twitter to me (continued). Blue Twitter bird logo. particular data is deleted - or whether it may be retained because there is an ongoing need and legal basis to process it. While we are working to improve our removal processes, users may continue to request the deletion of specific data by contacting Twitter through a number of mechanisms and submitting a deletion request. When such requests are received, the teams responsible for the data concerned are informed and required to perform manual deletion jobs according to a prescribed workflow. The data is removed from the Twitter systems where it is known to exist, as required by applicable law. We hope that the information above helps address any remaining concerns you may have regarding the deactivation of your Twitter account. We remain at your disposal for any further information. Sincerely, Office of Data Protection Twitter International Unlimited Company
#x#twitter#gdpr
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Aral Balkan

@noybeu Specifically, as far as the Irish DPC was concerned, “all data associated with the account being rendered unavailable through Twitter’s production tools” was enough for them to consider Twitter’s obligations under GDPR Article 17 to be fulfilled and for the complaint to be “amicably resolved.”

At this point we’d had several back-and-forths and I decided it wasn’t worth my time to pursue it further given the Irish DPC’s clear lack of desire to enforce GDPR Article 17.

Detail of letter from Irish DPC. Link to letter text is in the follow-up post.
Link to alt text is in the follow-up post as it exceeds Mastodon’s alt-text character limit.
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Aral Balkan

@noybeu Full alt text of the letter excerpts in the above post can be found at:

codeberg.org/aral/gists/raw/br

(They exceed Mastodon’s character limits for alt-text.)

#mastodon#altText#characterLimit
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Rodrigo Pio

@aral @noybeu it's virtually impossible that any big tech would actually delete someone's data entirely from their silos, IMHO. Technically they could. But it's way too much effort to implement (with no incentive or penalty), and even more complex to audit. Once there, it will always be there, in countless representations, structures, repositories...
That strategy seems to be working pretty well for training data too (their gain, everyone else's loss).

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Urzl

@rrapio @aral @noybeu At best, your data is forever "marked for deletion" and at the mercy of at least a dozen internal systems being administered well and in good faith for it to all eventually disappear.

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