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@cwebber@octodon.social @adfeno @dredmorbius @njoseph @aral @fsf Also remember that the W3C is the industry organisation of Google, etc. They don’t have a problem with the business model of the behemoths of the Web, all of which are their members and shape the future of the centralised web.

@aral @fsf @njoseph @dredmorbius @adfeno @cwebber

We do need a new and better standards organization, but I think we also need standards, so I'm ok with ActivityPub using W3C for now.

Who's capable of setting up a new and better standards org? Is anybody working on it? I've worked with several, and e.g. ISO is not it and apparently IETF ain't either.

@bhaugen @cwebber @adfeno @njoseph @fsf @aral Yeah. I'm not saying they're unacceptable, but pointing out the clear problems has utility.

Going it alone remains an option.

@dredmorbius @aral @fsf @njoseph @adfeno @cwebber

Pointing out the problems is necessary to define new and better.

@dredmorbius @aral @fsf @njoseph @adfeno @cwebber

> Going it alone remains an option

Do you think the ecosystem that is now developing around ActivityPub is a negative?

I understand that it will make it a more tempting target for profiteers, but anything that gets any traction is too.

We can always retreat to Scuttlebutt...

@dredmorbius @aral @fsf @njoseph @adfeno @cwebber

Shoot! I thought you were doing a situational assessment...

@bhaugen @cwebber @adfeno @njoseph @fsf @aral I know enough of the general landscape of networks, comms, (political) power, and history of the past 40 years of infotech, etc., to speak to that.

Ihaven't specifically been following the ActivityPub situation closely enoughto address its status or who should be the governing standards body.

I'm actively exploring issues of protocols, development, adoption, etc.

Just to be clear of my self-assessed strengths & weaknesses.

@dredmorbius @aral @fsf @njoseph @adfeno @cwebber

Some of us are looking for either a new and better standards body, which seems unlikely, or who can create such a thing.

In the meantime, liking AP so far.