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i don't know if i forgot how much of a hassle arch linux was on desktops or if i simply had way more patience for linux tweaking ten years ago, but i've bailed and switched to fedora instead

yeah, i'm really enjoying fedora silverblue

it was a little awkward at first trying to understand how to tweak an "immutable" operating system, but really with flatpaks and distrobox, it works really well

it's nice to have a system that is hard to break, and easy to roll back, and having separate containers for different versions of compilers and stuff makes development so much easier!

@gaeel Ditto. And I’m gravitating away from GNU + Linux to “Rust + Linux” (https://github.com/learnbyexample/awesome-rewrite-it-in-rust) given how well a cargo install (into your user directory) works with having seamless access to your CLI apps from every container.

Traditional package managers are going to have to fundamentally alter their approach if they’re going to be relevant in a world of “immutable” operating systems. Hopefully will also mean that we leave the mainframe model behind completely in Linux land sometime soon.

@aral oh that's interesting!

so this basically lets you install and run cli apps as cargo crates the same way you'd run flatpak apps?

@aral i also agree that linux needs to realise that mainframe multi-user models are next to irrelevant on the desktop, and that if we can find more appropriate models, it'll greatly help make desktop linux much better

@gaeel @aral So fork linux and make a desktop variant. Linux is still mostly used in servers or embedded!