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Labelling opposition to genocide as antisemitic is antisemitic. It is tantamount to saying all Jewish people support genocide and thus, that disdain for one implies disdain for the other. And I can hardly imagine a more antisemitic sentiment than that.
@aral sadly, Israel has gotten away with pushing that line for near 2 years now.
It's strange that this is not put to the Israeli propagandists on TV every time they call it antisemitic
@aral Never again. Anywhere. To anyone.
@DavidBruchmann @aral yes. And the to anyone is an important addition.
@DavidBruchmann @aral indeed :-(
@aral The Government of Israhell behaves like fascists and antisemites.
This by Brit anti-zionist campaigner Tony Greenstein is pertinent in that regard:
“Anti-Semites Love the IHRA ‘definition’ of Anti-Semitism’ Because It Has Nothing to do With Anti-Semitism & Everything to do with Supporting Israel & Zionism”
https://azvsas.blogspot.com/2025/05/anti-semites-love-ihra-definition-of.html?m=1
@aral Both Christians and Jews relegate the privilege of defining their people to themselves alone solely so they can abuse their definitions in obvious and catastrophically evil ways. If Netanyahu is a Jew then there is no such thing as a Jew.
@aral my thoughts exactly
@aral I keep returning to the complex history between Ireland and the UK wrt the conflict in Palestine & Israel.
For instance, a lot of the conflict is framed on Catholic vs Protestant lines Any deeper investigation of the subject paints it as superficial.
The Popes financing of William of Orange:
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/painting-of-pope-blessing-king-billy-shunned-in-shame-but-now-sdlp-man-wants-it-to-take-pride-of-place-up-on-hill/34556822.html
Prominent Protestant Irish nationalists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Irish_nationalists
The importance of Quakers for famine relief:
https://quakersintheworld.org.uk/quakers-in-action/316
Always decouple religion from politics
@indieterminacy @aral similar dichotomy with Stuart supporters in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. Repeated modern attempts try to give the period a religious overtone, but contemporary documents completely fail to support it.
There was no practical resistance to the reformation when it happened in 1560 and much less 150 years later.
Nevertheless history shows the British authorities always tried use religion to create division eg India, Ireland, Scotland.
@peterbrown I look forward to understanding Stuart era.
My favourite English monarch is Elizabeth I.
She managed to find a narrow pathway whereby she managed to steer the country from the extremes of her siblings' fundamentalist and violent assertions of royal prerogative regarding state religion.
My second is Elizabeth II (Elizabeth I for any Scots reading!).
Her diplomacy in Ireland following the assassination of Mountbatten and Brighton bombings was exemplary and a benchmark for ME.
@aral it's ironic how often the only answer to oppression is to become the oppressor. 
@aral I'd also say that Zionism ideology is antisemitic... Jewish people should feel safe as should any other marginalized identity around the world, not shipped off to a particular country to be accepted and start the cycle over...
@LeatherCubAndrew Yeah, at its very roots. The reason European countries supported the idea was because they were antisemites who wanted Jewish people out of their countries and sent elsewhere.
“Theodor Herzl himself appealed to European leaders that Zionism would resolve the ‘Jewish Question’ by sending Jews elsewhere.”