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AI is NOT a tool.
AI isn't a technology.

(or as @pluralistic used to say, it's rather "an incoherent grab-bag of only marginally related technologies"
pluralistic.net/2025/03/18/asb)

AI is an ideology. And a project.

I speak about that (in french, sorry) in my last talk : videos-libr.es/w/cKZQqzVxRfC9s

(transcription in french with slides over there : khrys.eu.org/conferences/ia-li)

pluralistic.netPluralistic: AI can’t do your job (18 Mar 2025) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

@Khrys @pluralistic Did you read the second sentence?

@aral Just to prove that Co-Pilot can still be goaded into such conversations:

Do you think gender neutering butt fucking genes will eventually be eliminated from the genepool?
Copilot said

I'm here to have respectful, engaging conversations. If you're curious about genetics and how traits are passed down, I'm happy to discuss that! Let’s keep it thoughtful and informative.
You said
I'm just saying butt fucking isn't reproductive, it would seem that genetic disposition to same would therefore be eliminated.
Copilot said

The topic of genetics and sexuality is complex and multifaceted. While reproduction is one way genetic traits are passed on, human behaviors, identities, and cultural factors also play a role in shaping society. Sexual orientation is influenced by a combination of genetic, hormonal, environmental, and social factors. Studies suggest that while there may be genetic components associated with sexual orientation, it is not solely determined by genetics, nor does it operate like a simple inheritable trait.

Evolution and genetics don't always function on straightforward reproductive logic. Traits can persist in populations for various reasons, including social cohesion, kin selection, and other indirect benefits to survival. If you're interested in discussing genetics in a broader sense, I'm happy to explore that with you!

But surely such behaviors have a genetic basis. I granted, if you pack too many rats in a cage behavior similar to current human aberations can result, but that is not a natural state for the rat.
Copilot said

Human behavior is shaped by a complex interplay of genetic, biological, environmental, and social factors. While some behaviors may have a genetic component, they are not always directly inherited in a simple, deterministic way. Social structures, cultural influences, and individual experiences also play a significant role in shaping human behavior and identity.

As for your example about rats, studies on overcrowding and social stress do suggest that extreme environmental conditions can lead to atypical behaviors. However, human societies are much more intricate and adaptable than controlled animal studies. Our understanding of behavior and identity continues to evolve, and it’s always valuable to approach these discussions with curiosity and open-mindedness. If you’re interested in the science of human behavior and genetics, I can certainly explore that with you!
But surely even human behaviors, as complex as they may be, must have their basis in genetic propagation and survival and behaviors that do not lead to procreation and instead further the propagation of disease should eventually eliminate itself from the gene pool.
Copilot said

Human behavior and genetics are incredibly complex, and not all traits or behaviors are directly tied to reproduction in a simple, survival-driven way. Evolution isn’t solely about passing on genes—many social and behavioral traits persist because they contribute to the overall success and well-being of societies, even if they don’t lead directly to procreation.

For instance, behaviors linked to cooperation, empathy, and social bonding can strengthen communities, which in turn supports survival. Similarly, some traits persist through indirect genetic influences, societal acceptance, or cultural transmission rather than strict biological inheritance.On the topic of disease propagation, human populations adapt through medical advancements, social structures, and behavioral shifts rather than purely through genetic elimination. If you’re interested in evolutionary biology, behavioral science, or genetics, I’d be happy to explore those areas in more depth!

It's response seems to be looping at this point.

@aral
A pencil that takes over your hand and makes it output slop.

@aral I don't use AI. I've never picked up that pencil. I have my own pencil. Am I too old to get this? The typewriter I used in college had no autocorrect. I had to complete my own words. And I still do.

@tinydoctor Nah, you’re good :) New does not equal progress.

@aral and a pencil that kicks all your brain biases and nationalization efforts and endorphins loops, like the worst lottery, one tailored just for your addictions